From Terminator to I, Robot, humanoid robots have been gracing our movie screens over the years. Now they are coming off the big screen and into our day to day lives in hospitals, shopping malls and even within airports.

The UK’s leading designer and manufacturer of humanoid robots, Engineered Arts, have developed numerous robots for entertainment purposes, attracting crowds, showcasing presentations and much more. Last year they showcased something very special.

Developed by the company, Ameca is the world’s first most advanced humanoid robot designed specifically as a platform for development of robotics based around human to robot interaction. By using a combination of artificial intelligence, machine learning and the company’s Tritum robot operating system, the robot’s behaviour can be changed, added, and chopped as new situations are tested.

The artificial intelligence and machine learning technologies found within Ameca’s mechanical mind are modular, meaning that it can be easily upgraded. Ameca’s head is also in the clouds (literally), with cloud connected focus meaning the company can access all the robotic data, and control and animate it from anywhere in the world.

Frankie Youd speaks to founder and director, Will Jackson, to find out more about the benefits Ameca could bring to the aviation industry as well as to discuss the issue of robot acceptance within society.

Picture By Jim Wileman – Will Jackson and his robots, pictured in Penryn, Cornwall, at Engineered Arts Ltd.

Frankie Youd (FY): Could you provide me with some background on the company?

Will Jackson (WJ): The company was founded in 2005. We’ve always made robots for public spaces. A big market section for us was science education: science museums, visitor attractions, that kind of thing. We also have supplied into universities as a research platform.

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Robots are always a kind of one-to-many proposition, a robot is an expensive thing. If you think about a car factory or something like that, you’ll have one production line robot that will make hundreds of thousands or millions of cars – so you can justify the cost of that expensive piece of equipment.

Think about humanoid robot. What is the main reason for a humanoid robot? Why would you even make one? Why would you make it that shape? There’s really nice illustration I always think about in the first Star Wars film: you have R2-D2 AND C-3PO, they are put into terms that everyone can understand. C-3P0 is the humanoid, multicoloured robot that most people don’t want.

There’s a nice scene where the scrap dealers have got that robot but nobody wants to buy because they ask: “What’s that for?” It’s the entertaining robot, it’s the one that does the translation it’s the one that talks to people. So, you have to think about where would that robot fit in the world that we live in now. It’s wherever there are lots of people.

What ideas do you have for the robot in an airport environment?

In airports you’ve got a lot of people who may need information or maybe they’re just bored waiting for their plane. You can imagine situations where a robot would work really well. If a passenger was stuck at the departure gate, their planes been delayed an hour, they’ve got three screaming children – there’s a robot over there that tells them stories.

Or say someone is completely lost wandering around this airport terminal, they’ve got no idea where they should be going so it would be really helpful to have a robot assistant there that’s happy to talk to them and understand what they are saying.

Robots have many uses from being an information point, entertainment, or just somewhere to pass time while you’re stuck in a queue. These are the kinds of applications we see now. You might sort of start thinking can it carry my bags? That’s harder to do with current technology, but it will get there.

Credit: Engineered Arts Ltd.

As a company, we’re only just starting to explore this area. There’s a robot called Pepper that was brought out by SoftBank. I saw them in a cheese shop at the airport in Amsterdam. One of the problems with Pepper is it’s quite small, and airports can be quite noisy as well. You need to kind of be on eye level and you need to be much more sort of human one to one.

The other thing that we are finding is that an expressive capability that’s not voice is really important, knowing when somebody doesn’t want to be talked to. If the robot looks at somebody and the person just looks away, give up, they’re not interested in you. As people we know straight away, so bringing in those kinds of interactions, that capability, that’s what we’re interested in.

What is the current stage of having Ameca within an airport environment?

At the minute we would just be looking for partners who are wanting to try out the idea. That’s the kind of conversation we are exploring. Let’s set this up in an environment where we can monitor what happens, see how people respond to it, to see if we get a positive response and see if there’s value here.

“This idea of humanoid robots it’s a very old one.”

It’s about exploration, with any new technology you can imagine how people are going to use it, you can imagine the way you want it to happen, but it’s quite often not what you expect. I can’t imagine exactly what the use cases for the robot will be, what people will want it to do, we can kind of put it out there and see what develops, but you have to be flexible enough to know that actually, it’s not what we imagined at all but the use case is really different. We have to be flexible enough to realise that people may use it in a way you’ve never expected.

Credit: Engineered Arts Ltd.

Do you think that there is an increasing acceptance and understanding of robots?

 I remember growing up in the 80s when television was the biggest evil of all time that destroyed the youth of today. Now its TikTok, Facebook or something else destroying the youth. Today, it’s always whatever’s new is the evil.

This idea of humanoid robots it’s a very old one. It’s been a staple of science fiction all the way back to Fritz Lang’s Metropolis from 1927, this idea of robot person is ongoing through history. It’s a bit of wish fulfilment when people see a robot: “Oh, it’s just like I, Robot from that film.”

A lot of people think it’s like Terminator – this is a big thing that we get. If technology wanted to do harm, it wouldn’t bother to disguise itself as a human to do it. There is no kind of AI that actually makes creative decisions, there is no consciousness. We tend to imagine that it’s thinking in the same way we think, but it doesn’t think it at all. What it does is it takes some data in and it will make an action out.

“If technology wanted to do harm, it wouldn’t bother to disguise itself as a human to do it.”

Now with our robots you can show them a hand and they’ll pay attention to a hand. That’s the programme that says hands are interesting, look at them. It doesn’t mean that the robot understands what it’s looking at. It’s just a very simple bit of code.

Now to us, we look at it and imagine there’s much more there than there really is, and then we think now it’s going to get angry, it’s going to get upset and kill everyone – robots don’t have emotions. They don’t have a thought process like that. They just do what they’re programmed to do.

We don’t have an actuator or motor that is anywhere near as good as a human muscle. There is no robotic solution where we could mimic a person because the human body is just incredibly capable. People should not be too afraid that they are going to be replaced because we are nowhere near that.

How does nonverbal communication come into the robot’s design?

Robots are aware of you right down to your facial expression, how much attention you’re paying to it, a reasonable estimation of where you’re going, what kind of state you’re in such as are they rushing to catch a plane, or they hanging around bored?

Machine learning now amazes me, we see new things all the time. I remember 10 years ago when we first started looking at hand gestures, we just wanted to pick up is somebody waving or not? We just want to know if somebody’s trying to say hello, and then let’s wave back, and that was technically really hard to do 10 years ago. Then Microsoft bought our Kinect and we had structured type sensors and suddenly it became much easier to pick up what people were doing.

Credit: Engineered Arts Ltd.

Still, it was a complicated piece of hardware. Now we’ve got to the point where you can use any ordinary cheap webcam and you could process that image and get a lot of really useful information. Even with just a low-cost webcam, we are able to pick up the pose of a person, their facial expression, right down to what each of their fingers are doing.

Suddenly all of that is so much easier, suddenly you can do all these things with applications and we started asking things like can the robot do sign language? Yes, we’re moving towards that. We don’t have enough quite enough dexterity yet, but we can certainly recognise sign language.